MAGA Conservatives are mean spirited hipocrites. I am talking about the way they behave towards their fellow human beings. The big issue here though, is the hipocrisy.
Republitarians (Republican-Libertarian) are currently legislating some of the most restrictive laws ever against Abortion. They say it’s to save babies. Ok, let’s say that that is true. They have also voted against regulations to ban assault weapons, or to keep assault weapons out of the hands of mentally ill people.
The year 2023 is only three point five months old, and there have already been 146 mass shootings in the United States. 11,500 people have died as the result of a mass shooting this year. Of those, 398 were adolescents and 71 were children. GOP House and Senate members have voted against any kind of gun regulation across the board, yet they say they want to save children.
This makes their “pro-life” stand an outright lie. They’re not pro-life. What they are is misogynistic. They don’t care about saving babies, they want to control women.
That’s the goal.
Outlawing abortion is step one. Next will be to outlaw birth control. What’s after that? Well, these folks are allegedly Xtians. So we can envision some kind of a Xtian version of Sharia Law. Maybe full on Burkas will be required. In fifty years, Maybe women and girls will no longer be allowed to get any kind of education. Girls will be brought up to be breed cows and sexual servants.
I joined a group recently that shows the scriptural errors of Christianity, and in particular “Messianic (NOT) Jews.” I was once one of those, from the age of 18 until about 28. My Saturn return hit me at that time, and I realized that there was something very wrong with Jesus, but that is for another post.
The name of the group is Debunking the Christian Eisegesis and what I saw there was a very good arguement against Christianity, and especially the “Biblical” support for it. I took things slightly off topic, and paid for my mistake.
A fellow, speaking about the “scriptural support” Christians claim about Jesus being the Meshiach, asked: “Why must they lie?” I made the mistake of answering it with “It’s the same reason Donald Trump lies. It’s because they know they can get away with it.” And that opened up a whole can of worms. This group is full of Republicans. Ultra Orthodox Fundamentalist Jewish Republicans, who nonetheless support G-d-less, anti-Semtic Donald Trump. It’s incredibly mind boggeling. But, also my own fault. I tend to speak from my heart.
The first response came from Tzion Josiah ari Barlev: “we got a anti Trumper uhhhh ohhhh”
Khalil Rashad chimed in with “Anti-Trumpers are STILL error minded!”
Khalil Rashad: To be anti-Trump is to be pro-Israel, pro- democracy and pro-human. Trump is authoritarian, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, and a white supremacist. In fact he only got two things right while he was POTUS: moving our embassy to Jerusalem and affirming Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights. He did nothing for America. As much as I favor his acts toward Israel, I don’t live in Israel.
Next came Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev who posted:
“Tell me you aren’t orthodox without telling me you support Ukraine the biggest Nazi fortress the world has seen since Hitler.”
I am not Orthodox. I don’t think I’m even religious. I do not support Ukraine, for exactly the reasons you have, but I don’t know what else can be done when an enemy of humanity, Putin, is doing his best to establish autocracy as a global norm. As far as Moshiach is concerned, I am one who believes that the establishment of the State of Israel, and especially the outcome of the Six Day War, may have fulfilled the requirements for Moshiach.
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev didn’t really address any issue in my resonse. Instead he responded:
“You are absolutely foolish.”
“A Jew can’t support socialism because it’s a system of theft. They can’t support the abortion laws of the democrats it’s murder. They can’t support removal of weapons from citizens because it’s unjust and against Torah as weapons only go away when Moshiach comes.”
“You absolutely are a fool.”
“Saying Trump didn’t nothing for America is the most ignorant uninformed comment ever.”
Maybe i should have responded with something like “you obviously know nothing about socialism.”
But my response was:
So, I guess the early founders of the State of Israel, the kibbutzniks, weren’t really Jews then? They were mostly Socialists. Some were Communists. As were Ben Gurion, Sharett, Eshkol, Meir, Rabin . . . Nice the way you want to rewrite history. Kinda like the BDS liars.
Josiah didn’t have a response for that. But he did go on to say:
Ellis Arseneau ‘you are beyond ignorant if you think a religious Jew would side with Biden and the democrats socialism and stealing? I don’t even know a Rabbi who is a democrat.”
I didn’t say “What part of my statement: I am not Orthodox. I don’t think I’m even religious,” did you not understand?” Instead, I responded:
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev Mine is. I would venture to say that the entire congregation of Temple Beth El (Eureka CA) belongs to the Democratic Party. We are Progressive Zionists.
Then Tzion Josiah posted a whole bunch of screen shots from my Facebook news feed, and then posted:
Ellis Arseneau “yes I can see you are progressive. Which is the opposite of Religious Jew.”
Ellis Arseneau “you are not religious whatsoever. You don’t speak for Torah. I saw your profile. Enough said it’s full of vile things and evil.”
Ellis Arseneau “you have mountains of slander against President Trump on your wall and supporting Socialist Bernie the *Karet.”
“Dude your never gonna be able to atone for all that. Not in this life.”
My response: Uhm, didn’t I already say I’m not religious? That said, why then would I speak for the Torah?
SLANDER AGAINST TRUMP? Eveything I’ve posted about Trump is a matter of public record. It’s on videotape. The whole world has seen it.
Trump is a pathological liar, an adulterer, a misogynist, a thief, and if not an anti-Semite or a white supremacist, he is at very least the darling of those two groups. Hashem vomits Trump from His mouth. Hashem has no tolerance for liars and hypocrites. I may not be religious, but I do know the truth. You sir, have a strange way of turning Torah on it’s ear.
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev
“You are sick in the head.”
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev Yes, I am a horrible heretic. Here’s my take on the State of Israel. I’m sure you’ll think it’s all wrong. No worries. Progressives hate me too. https://el.avalonrisen.com/about-israel/
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev And you are really, really, really going to love this (which, I am very proud of) https://el.avalonrisen.com/…/04/13/a-pantheistic-shema/
His response, where he really degenerates to the level of a kindergartener: Ellis Arseneau “this you? Haha”
Thank you Tzion, for sharing your true self. Very mature of you. You know, I joined this group because I once fell for the whole Messianic Mishigas. I was 18, recovering from a breakup and very vulnerable. At the time my spiritual education was in flux I guess. Anyway, I feel like I am still a recovering messy, so I joined this group because your goal, disproving Xtianity, spoke to me. One mention of my disliking Mr. Trump and suddenly I became an outcast, a pariah, bombarded by all sorts of things that have diddly squat to do with the alleged subject matter of the group. How did your heart become so full of hate? It boggles my mind. I’m going on 70 years old. I am reevaluating my place among the people of Israel. One of my best friends is a Chabad Rabbi, and he has helped me a lot. He has love. Pure love from and for Hashem. If I did not know Rabbi Shumer, and you had been my first exposure to my reuniting with Judaism, I would have rejected it outright. You need to learn to love.
Ellis Arseneau “it is very mature.”
“To obey Torah and follow the rules. Thank you for knowing the laws of zealousness and defending Torah.”
“One day you should gather your Karet synagogue and teach them of the Elijah story of the pagan fire of the pyre challenge.”
“I’m sure you’ll find somewhere in the story a pagan screaming “Elijah is immature Ana bully.”
“Imagine being so far from Torah you complain when someone else follows it and scolds and rebuked you.”
Tzion Josiah Ari Barlev Donald Trump has committed more crimes against Hashem and the Torah than I could even dream of, yet you laud him as some pillar of righteousness, perhaps a prophet of Hashem. Trump commits his attrocities against G-d in front of cameras for all to see. That kind of makes you a brazen hypocrite.
This is where it all ended. I quit the group. This guy Tzion is the typical Ultra-Orthodox (Fundamentalist) Jew who spends their time studying Torah, the Mishnah, Talmud, and the rest of the Tenach. There is really nothing wrong in that, except it makes them very, very self righteous and judgmental. Oddly, they do not believe that the State of Israel should exist (this might be why in the above conversation, Tzion didn’t respond to any of my reflections on Israel). The more radical types even go so far as to publically support the Palestinian lie. I wonder if Tzion is one of those?
In Israel these guys don’t work, they don’t serve in the IDF. They just mooch off the state, and make their wives get jobs to support them. The opinion of the average Israeli is that these guys are utterly useless.
*Karet (pronounced KAH-rate), also known as excision, is a biblical punishment imposed for a number of offenses, including sexual immorality, eating leavened products on Passover, performing work on the Sabbath and failing to circumcise males. The word itself comes from the root meaning “cut off,” but the particulars of what this punishment entails are not specified in the Torah and are subject to debate.